Some rooms vary from this layout. Tons of guys here have Call of Duty and Halo, Skyrim and Gears of War, heck, many have Mortal Kombat and Devil May Cry. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. I know several students who attended these schools and went nuts due to teh strictness of the rules.alot of them transferred to Liberty. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well. People who attend strict colleges probably do so because they prefer a stricter environment. The following five schools have honor codes and policies that are among the strictest in the nation. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). Extremely vulgar!!! A refrigerator is also provided in each residence hall. Everyone should look at the evidence presented and formulate their own personal opinion of the matter. A long time ago yes, it was a very conservative campus. If your God did these things (and science shows Sodom was the victim of a meteor strike, not magic) that makes your God evil and you should be ashamed to be promoting evil and defending the murder of gay people. Take a tour through BJU's beautiful campus with our Spanish and French Speaking tour guides. Part-timers or those with special circumstances must do so on days when their classes do not begin until after noon. Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. It is a small institution with an enrollment of 2,295 undergraduate students. I was born and raised at Bob Jones University (a christian school) and received my degree there despite the fear, hatred and hypocrisy experienced while I was there. Jerry, Im sorry you and your wife had problems at Asbury. Security: You need a student ID card to get into the residence hall, and the doors to the womens dorms are video-monitored. Author Kevin Roose, who went undercover as a student at Liberty, recalled that one night, several men were watching 300, which is rated R, and they were caught, fined a combined $350, and the movie was confiscated. Students are required to have a personal laptop, but they are not allowed to watch TV or movies or access social networking sites from those laptops. Yet, a fraction of that die from guns. Ive also chosen to go back this Fall because it follows the Bible and the rules discourage wrong things so it is Much easier to make right decisions! Bob Jones University This South Carolina University not only has strict dress code policies like banning Abercrombie and Hollister clothing, but it also enforces strict rules for on-campus residents. Geez. OR a girl from State college,, who has photos of herself posted , throwign up drunk in a men`s bathroom, has slept with numerous other men, a couple of abortions behind her, and had sex with strangers on spring break because she was drunk and had to take penecilin afterward, then had to lie to her future husband about it all mmmm i`lll take the girl from the christian college,, thanks. I went in as a fundamentalist zealot, and came out a Calvinist rebel. And obviously the floor leader used her positions power to sexually abuse you. Waiting for Bob Jones's huge gay bomb to drop. If you give your kids a firm understanding of probability, they wont even *want* to gamble. Other academic levels are not stringently held to these policies, but they must sign out if they want to return after curfew. But some schools, most especially those affiliated with the evangelical Christian movement in the United States, raise a number of extremely difficult questions with their adherence to a highly restrictive code of values. If you want to be a Christian, go to a Christian school if possible. Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. Oddly left out are West Point Academy, Air Force Academy and other military schools. Your argument is no better than saying something is right because its in Mein Kampf or saying that Western values are wrong because they upset Osama bin Laden so much he destroyed some buildings. The University recently announced changes to this year's Student Handbook that include allowing women to wear pants to class and athletic shorts raised to 2 inches above the knee. Enjoy a wide variety of meats, vegetables, fruits and desserts across a variety of food categories, including American, pizza & pasta, and international. I know people are given the choice/make the decision to attend these schools, but they just sound so old-fashioned and boring. In addition, anyone considering dating a classmate or other attendee must refrain from any sign of affection beyond handholding. What rules are they not so strict on? What better way to prepare for your upcoming class than to grab a fresh cup of coffee? It has long established itself as a bastion of fundamentalism. Roomates: Freshman can request a roomate. -Tobacco, its a smoke free campus, just like NKU is now. Bob Jones University. I think that the questions that we really need to ask are (a) whether students are better off if they attend these schools, and (b) whether we ought to encourage students to attend these schools. While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. Academically, it was quite decent, and some professors were very open-minded. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. both in this life and in the next. Good job elarning to sneak though. People can have jobs with alcohol or tobacco. Asbury College/University. I am glad that the author is not in charge of a Christian college because Women have to wear a dress or skirt and hose most of the time. Religion is a choice not a punishment and certainly it is not a requirement if I am not mistaken by my own logic as well as using the bible as a reference would God really want you to be FORCED and REQUIRED to worship him in the ways others want you too? Over the last decade, though, many of the university's "unusual" rules have been discarded, and a kinder, gentler BJU has emerged, while still holding to the fundamental truths found in their creed. 304 Comments. And depending on the season, you can enjoy a Bruins basketball game or society game while you eat. BUT, if you are homosexual, they wont kick you off campus. Dictatorial societies (from countries to colleges) always invoke claims of protecting people from themselves or the protecting the society, but are always first and foremost about preserving the power structure of an elite and repressing any who might challenge the dogma they use to maintain that control. I know that not all Christian colleges and universities are this strict and can be good. and allows women to only have one piercing per ear. In order to qualify for housing accommodations, youll need to fill out the Housing Accommodations Request and provide any requested documentation from applicable medical health professionals. The residences halls also have study rooms, and some halls are handicap-accessable. I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. Greenville, SC 29614. My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. Would you go to a school like this? I totally agree. Renovations: One dorm each year is completely renovated. 2. Theres a long thread on the forums at home-school.com about Pensacola Christian College by a former student who thinks its a cult, and its not accredited. God created sex. When she's not running between activities, class and work, you can find Sydney laughing uncontrollably, talking to everyone, shopping, getting pedicures, reading magazines for hours, or planning her future on Pinterest. God bless. First, living under such strict rules has detrimental consequences. Jessica Lovely, an English education major, echoed this sentiment.It hasnt really affected me that much except for the fact that on windy days its good to be able to wear pants, she said. Some may seem that way to those who dont adhere to a particular faith. Carlos Santana, a senior computer science major, said the change hasnt really changed the atmosphere around BJU.Bob Jones will always be Bob Jones, regardless of what people wear to class, he said.However, Santana said the switch is beneficial because its what the business world uses.He also likes the fact that sandals are now a part of casual dress. Save for the dress code and media violations, most of these infractions can lead to disciplinary actions or even outright dismissal from the school. God didnt make us to reject each other. DO you know what these strict colleges are invoking by making these kinds of religious standards? (see Joshua 24:15, Jude 1:4, Romans 16:17). I was just perusing Bob Jones University faculty listing for their Seminary, do you notice anything conspicuous about all of the faculty members (save one)? You choose to goto these places and you definately visit them and see if it fits what you want a few years of your life to be a part of. [emailprotected]. Greenville, SC 29614 . Here is a deceptive quote from their college's website: With regard to the doctrine of Soteriology: We believe Scripture teaches that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone (Eph. You arent allowed to have your own opinions about anything and creativity and individuality is totally stifled. This is my redo of my older and poor quality Bob Jones University tour video that somehow went viral. We can have/get tattoos, we dont have to attend church at all if we dont want to. There wasnt anything there that drove me crazy. By having everyone in their dorms at night, there is less opportunity for crime or accidents. Bob Jones has hosted republican presidential candidates in the past like Bush and Reagan, making it very clear who they endorsed. We also had similar rules: Smoking is legal, but people die from it. Some of the dating offenses include displays of affection beyond hand-holding both on- and off-campus, seeing one another in swimming or sunbathing attire, not exiting a car at the same time immediately upon turning off the engine, being caught alone together while at school, and going on single dates while a freshman. AS I recall, they essentially asked him two quest. Women are not allowed to wear pants or shorts unless they are performing an athletic activity and their skirts must fall below the knee. They help stem the tide of STDs, date rape, the dangers of substance abuse, etc., A church I was told to attend? All serious and dastardly crimes against the institution. Ugh. follow you to church? November 11, 2013 by John Shore. Where to Apply - Online Portal, Reservation Fee - 250 USD. Faith College Largo Florida. Anallisa you are extremely vulgar! The rules, says Dr. Bob, "are like a mold a sculptor would make--you pour the liquid into it and keep it there until it hardens and then you can take the props away; it's like a hothouse for a . You do, as an adult, have the right to transfer if a school does not fit your lifestyle. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. their own standards, and this writer makes fun of them as hopelessly pathetic. In the workforce today, business casual is typically the standard, so I am happy to be implementing this into my daily routine in preparation for my future., Molly Wilson, a junior journalism and mass communication major, said the change hadnt really affected her.It really hasnt bothered me because I like wearing skirts, Wilson said. If an institution dedicated to the service of Christ becomes abhorred by those who dont serve Christ, this might suggest that it is doing something right not always, just sometimes. I have met people that go to PCC and they have all said only good things about it. Cuppa Jones features Peets Coffee. -Drinking, also duh, they just actually monitor it here. Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? 1700 Wade Hampton Blvd. The main thing I learned from my year there was how to be sneaky. You sure do sound like the typical judgemental fundamentalist type that writes these student handbook! Answer (1 of 9): I graduated back in 1976, so this answer is a bit dated. John Ellis, a former Bob Jones University student who blogs at "Practically Known Theology," has more. I went to Asbury and had no issues. %PDF-1.7 % Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. Seeing (or participating in) vigorous debates where practically nothing is held as a common assumption between the opposing debaters is a great way to develop someones intellectual capabilities, especially critical thinking skills. She ate me out the first week I was there and gifted me with my first strap on fucking a few weeks latter. my child would be at a place which is much safer and God-honoring. Look it up. The code specifically forbids faux-hawks for men and unnatural hair colors for women. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 2,705 (fall 2021), its setting is city, and the campus size is 225 acres. YAAAY ORU and all the others. It`s hard to predict the circumstances where . Working off-campus is possible, but women arent allowed to accept jobs that require them to wear pants, and students arent allowed to work on Sundays or serve alcohol. Pablo Rivera, a Christian ministries major, said, I feel like its a good change. He admitted that he was skeptical at first. However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. .\}5o`3zMG"Sfy7Ke /T$oUEU=ZkSY,&i+-q)}> }.O [I endstream endobj 721 0 obj <>>> endobj 722 0 obj <. By the time we were ready to graduate and go to college, that important decision, like most others, had either already been made for us or pushed so strongly onto us that we felt there were no other options. 1. They have separated beaches for the men and women. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. Any and all work must not interfere with weekday prayer sessions, either. )B7= Sure, we get frustrated with the rules, but the vast majority of the time, we are too busy to really notice or care. Campus. It was merely noted that many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. Society may indeed be corrupt, but Christianity is no better. Bob Jones University was founded in 1927 . (If you do not understand that quote.) you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. Ballroom dancing? Well I attended Pennsacola and BJU and frankly PCC was much better. It is a choice for the student to go there, they arent forced. Serving alcohol at bars or restaurants, keeping hours past 10:30 PM on weekdays and midnight on weekends, and door-to-door sales without expressed permission from the dean or a retail license are all forbidden by Bob Jones University. is a college. Jesus drank wine. Dallas Christian College directly addresses individuals who feel their extremely staunch policies are either too slack or too restrictive, stating that such measures strike a balance between freedom and Christian piety. Mr. Jones, in an appearance on the CNN program "Larry King Live," said that . Your moral compass seems to be spinning. Mature, responsible people are able to think for themselves and moderate their own behavior. Televisions. If you honestly think that the way these colleges are conducting themselves and imposing religion upon students is a good thing, well then I dont know. And was to that if I wear modest clothing my tattoos should not be a problem. Bob Jones University lost its exemption in 1983 when the U.S. Supreme Court said the ban on interracial dating violated federal policy. I went to the definitely not religious university of Iowa State University years ago. REENVILLE, S.C. -- In an unexpected move, Bob Jones University, a fundamentalist Christian institution that had come under national criticism for its ban on interracial dating among its students, abandoned that long-held policy, its president, Bob Jones 3d said tonight. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); These days, college is expensive and not the best choice for everyone. {Wo;0^5i\Yn;_\D-}zxquqaVd??MLc_z3xg`|(U7fBZwPO) fsJ#J 0i! r$JPF!y8jWi425XWH9XO25 o=HR}q]@rOKL+%f B Camping trips with the opposite sex arent strictly forbidden; theyre just discouraged. To try to fix me, I was taken to a church, beat, water thrown on me, dragged to a stage and forced to confess things Id never done. So go ahead and get offended on the internet because someone you dont even know wrote down the rules of strict colleges and made snarky comments about them. They are private institutions and can set their own policies. and everyone is a sinner, but it is much better to have standards (standing for something morally HA!!! Whenever I walked over the bridge, I had an urge to sing the hymn There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood, but I'd sing There Is a Fountain Filled With Bobs. As for chapel, yeah, its mandatory. They completely reach into the personal lives and convictions of their students, demanding that they refrain from such so-called perversions such as premarital sex, extramarital sex (even if both parties agree to an open relationship), and homosexuality. 3) If God destroyed a city because there were some gay people there, the takeaway shouldnt be that homosexuality is wrong, the takeaway should be that the Old Testament God is an evil monster who at best needs to be disobeyed and at worst needs to be destroyed. Showing slide 1 of 6. Both my wife and I are hurt! Bible Conference focuses on God's steadfast, eternal love. Youll also have access to free laundry facilities as well as music rooms for practicing piano, voice or instruments. Also, Dami, Sodom and Gamorah was only said to be evil because they tried to A) rape two visitor (angels mind you) 2) they were gluttonous in their behavior 3) I am pretty darn sure that a gay man was NOT on the committee for writing the Bible 4) the bible also condemns women for having a period.. (I did study the Bible), strict rules can actually push one from God. The dress can best be described as business casual. In November 2012, Bob Jones University (BJU) asked GRACE to serve as an independent ombudsman, reviewing how the school had handled claims of sex . Some rules are ridiculous. Welcome to a place where Gods very attributes are slandered and blasphemed. The Den is a great place to stop and refuel, hang out with friends or work on projects with classmates. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Because I want to go to Asbury. Those of you who are saying Oh SOMEBODY has to set standards for the youth. Guess what? If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. When I transferred from Asbury to the University of Kentucky, I found professors at UK to be nicer, more involved in my learning, more supportive, more Christian, and more ethical than my Asbury experience. I got to Oral and they dont follow you around but they are strict, I have piercings and Ive been told to put clear retainers in during class and school events. Starting in 2007, Paul Quinn College in Dallas has required students to be dressed in business casual attire from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. if they want to attend . I. There are a lot of rules and some of them are stupid. This college doesnt only crack down on church attendance, but on class attendance as well. March 4, 2000 12 AM PT. 720 0 obj <> endobj 744 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<7F19E08935E242DD996137A75EF34ADE>]/Index[720 56]/Info 719 0 R/Length 110/Prev 617658/Root 721 0 R/Size 776/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream They are christain schools and everybody there must not only act like one but be one. Im not talking about breaking these rules, Im talking about snobishly being on the look for anyone that might be breaking these rules and falesly accusing them. But do you know which degree is still highly valuable? (AP Photo, used with permission from . In 2000, Bob Jones III, president of the university and grandson of the founder, announced on Larry King Live that the school was ending its ban on interracial dating, long defended because "God . Bob Jones University is a private fundamental Christian university located in Greenville, South Carolina. Our goal is to provide a safe, supportive environment where you can build relationships, grow in Christ, excel academically and develop leadership skills. I went to BJ because I wanted to. God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? I chose to attend Pensacola Christian College, nobody forced me. Clery Act Campus Security and Safety ReportIn compliance with Federal Public Law 101-542, Title II, "Crime Awareness and Campus Security Act of 1990," Bob Jones University provides campus safety and security information, which is made available to all currently enrolled students, employees, applicants for admission, and prospective employees upon request. Just because something is legal, does not make it right, nor does it protect society. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) Ive been asked so many times why I kept returning to such an oppressive environment. Im very sorry that Pensacola was such a horrible experience for you but keep it to yourself. "Although Bob Jones University does not hold to a King James Only position, we continue to hold the widely-used King James Version (KJV) as the campus standard in the classroom and in the chapel pulpit. Then contact properties to schedule a tour. And we can definitely dance. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). She is involved with Alpha Delta Chi sorority and Campus Outreach, and she works on campus as a student worker and at a department store as a shoe sales associate. My experience is that Asbury failed to portray the Christian faith in a serious way because She became more interested in the rules than the outcomes (Paul made a big deal of this in the bible). Youre not supposed to be having sex in the first place, for one. Dorms. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. The campus is home to 2,566 full time undergraduate students, and 335 full time graduate students. While the switches havent changed much for men students, women may now wear pants to class. It was absolute bullshit, but because I had short hair( girl) I guess I wasnt godly enough They are doing more damage to the kids that have no idea what theyre getting into. They do not require church service, but Convocations on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays are compulsory for the entire student body. The Catholic Church, for example If you think that sheltering yourself in colleges such as these is a good way to prepare for the world, then youre absolutely wrong. Our school was started in 1969 by a Bob Jones University graduate and his wife. Giving into that division will never bring peace. There are 4 residence halls for women and 4 for men. What about people like me with throat issues? She told me that I was uncapable of loving because i had not experienced Gods Love. How rude of her to think she knows my life and that I had not experienced Gods love! 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